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I'm furious that there are so many families who think that women should shut their whore mouths when men are talking that some schools can't hold satisfactory parent teacher conferences.

Why are these women not involved with their children's schooling? Why do the male heads of family who attend the conferences not discuss the results with their wives at home, since presumably mothers have the main responsibility for child rearing in traditional patriarchal families? Are the fathers so removed from the feminine/child-rearing sphere that they do not attend the conferences either?

Why are local women's organizations not organizing these mothers and empowering them to speak and act even if these patriarchal women will only do so in woman only spaces? Feminism FAIL.

I don't think that public schools, which by law are required to teach democracy and gender equality, should reinforce the patriarchal families in their beliefs. Of course not.

But holding a few mother teacher conferences, which will in no way detract from the normal course of parent teacher conferences, is not only the only practical solution for the affected children right now, it is also a great opportunity for the teachers to tell these mothers that their voices are valued and desired, and that they wield an enormous power over their children's schooling and future which must be used constructively. When the mothers learn this, they can find ways to participate which do not require them to speak in mixed groups.

I am disgusted that this whole debate is being derailed by islamophobia. The affected children, and society as a whole, need these mothers mobilized. That a comparatively high percentage of families with patriarchal beliefs are Muslims is not relevant, and finding practical ways of working with these families is not bowing to islamist pressure. I sincerely doubt that radical islamists would be pressuring public schools to involve wives and mothers more in decision making, for fuck's sake.

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Date: 2010-02-05 09:44 pm (UTC)
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This is a discussion I haven't seen mentioned, before--where is it going on?

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Date: 2010-02-05 11:43 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
Our gym in schools don't have showers until puberty/middle school (since early onset puberty is sorta a thing in some communities. Like, nine years old.)

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Date: 2010-02-05 10:07 pm (UTC)
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I think we agree on this subject: I wouldn't like the mother-teacher conferences to become an on-going thing, which reinforces the patriarchal culture, but I definitely support giving these women the opportunity to attend them right now.

And I'm very disappointed to read that Søvndal spoke out against them - oh noes, u were mai heero.

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Date: 2010-02-05 10:17 pm (UTC)
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Oh, yay!

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Date: 2010-02-16 12:21 pm (UTC)
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It sounds like a very touchy debate once the "let's not cater to radical Islam" thing is thrown in. What a very effective derailment it is.

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