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Do business coaches typically do their best to frighten and worry their clients, so that their coaching will seem more indispensable?

My boss got a coach to come and give us an all day seminar today, which mostly consisted in making what we normally do seem hopelessly complicated, difficult and fraught with danger, and soliciting input from the audience which he then cruelly mocked, especially if they made a better or more coherent point than him. Even if they were agreeing with him and he had to contradict himself to do it.

Last week we had a pre-seminar meeting with him, to explain our company's wants and needs. My boss and the director don't have any experience in what my department does, so they had invited me and my co-worker S to the meeting. Coach-douche asked us how we normally accomplish our task, and we told him. Then he mocked S right to his face and in front of all of us, while our boss and the director laughed. I got angry and backed S up, telling coach-douche that the procedure S had explained works, and how and why. S stared at the floor and said nothing for the rest of the meeting.

After the meeting, my boss told me to adjust my attitude.

Today, coach-douche uses several of the points I gave him without giving me credit, even going so far as to copy-paste a large chunk of text from an email outlining my points he had asked me for "Not to do anything with it, just so I can read it and think about it".

And my boss corners me during the break to ask me how I think the seminar is progressing. Having adjusted my attitude from "respond thoughtfully to ideas on how to go about our job with constructive advice and nip harassment of employees in the bud" to "be a bootlicking corporate yes-man and go behind my boss's back to actually get the work done" I complimented coach-douche for saying many true things (which all entry-level employees in my department learn on their first day, but my boss doesn't know).

And then I did damage control behind my boss's back, reassuring everyone that their job is not complicated, difficult or likely to cause a break-down from emotional stress (wtf coach-douche? O_o), and the tips they had shared on how to tackle typical, minor problems were useful and appreciated, no matter what coach-douche had mockingly said during the seminar.

Amusingly, it seems our boss had not talked to S about his attitude, because he spent most of the seminar commenting sarcastically under his breath, and interrupting coach-douche to disagree with him whenever he said anything especially unrelated to how real people act in real business situations.

(For example, we deal a lot with the building sector. Coach-douche advices that when calling a roofer on the telephone, and he replies with a curt "I'm on a roof", the correct response is to ask "Oh really, why are you on a roof?" because this will establish a rapport with him. I think "Sorry, when would be a better time to call?" is more likely to result in a lasting business relationship. Even though I'm not building a human connection through genuine interest and curiosity about the client as a person with that reply. Douche.)

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Date: 2012-02-16 07:58 pm (UTC)
calvinahobbes: Calvin holding a cardboard tv-shape up in front of himself (calvinfacepalm)
From: [personal profile] calvinahobbes
Wow. That guy sounds absolutely terrible. I can't believe he would actually steal your ideas without giving credit -- well, I believe you obviously, but that is a craptastically asshole thing to do! I'm totally indignant, I can't imagine how it would make you feel.

Your boss sounds so sucky. Wtf, adjust your attitude? That's the response he has after inviting you to -- presumably -- participate in the meeting??

Wow, humanity...

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Date: 2012-02-16 08:38 pm (UTC)
calvinahobbes: Calvin holding a cardboard tv-shape up in front of himself (Default)
From: [personal profile] calvinahobbes
I don't think it matters whether the ideas were original or not, the polite thing to do would be to acknowledge your input.

Oh, that was your new boss, not the boss-boss. It still seems to me, from how you described the situation, that she could have handled it better. But maybe it's important to her to appear bossy and give directions rather than ask nicely?

From her reaction to the joke on her expense, I think she might have responded negatively to his putting down S and the others -- just because she didn't acknowledge it to you, doesn't mean she didn't think it. Maybe it's another case of Being Boss, and maybe sharing that with people below her isn't something she thinks is appropriate. So, yes, what you said :D

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Date: 2012-02-16 08:13 pm (UTC)
blnchflr: Captain America Civil War (Default)
From: [personal profile] blnchflr
I'm really disturbed by that coach.

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Date: 2012-02-19 08:15 pm (UTC)
blnchflr: Captain America Civil War (Default)
From: [personal profile] blnchflr
Blargh. I'm disturbed and saddened that he gets work. [personal profile] kabal42 and I ranted about him yesterday, too.

I guessed Joan Ørting, because she's the most annoying attention-seeker I could think of.
And that was correct? That says a lot, if not everything, doesn't it…

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Date: 2012-02-16 08:59 pm (UTC)
kabal42: Willow, dark and angry (Buffy - Willow anger)
From: [personal profile] kabal42
He sounds like an absolute horrid excuse for a human who should NEVER teach anyone any fucking thing. What a load of crap. Not to mention how rude it is to appropriate your input and pass it off as his own. It's not that hard to just casually mention he'd spoken with some people from the department and had used their input. That's all it takes, douche. Argh. *actually raging*

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Date: 2012-02-16 09:40 pm (UTC)
kabal42: Captain America and Iron Man leaning on each other, arms around each other's shoulders (Default)
From: [personal profile] kabal42
The endless fodder for mockery is a silver lining indeed. Ugh, the description of his clothes make my eyes hurt and I haven't even SEEN it!
Ohgosh, I'm glad he didn't mention your name! That would be rather awful. Though given how horrible he was, you probably could have explained your way out of it again.

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